Tuesday, January 3, 2012

New Raw Powerlifting Classification Standards

I'm reprinting a post I made on bodybuilding.com regarding the Raw Classification Standards. The general sentiment is the new elite classifications, specifically the elite totals, are too low. My response:

"Everyone complains the new elite totals are too low, but they fail to offer an alternative method for specifically defining elite. Using yourself as anecdotal evidence is a poor argument against the standard.

In this case, the elite classification represents the top 1% of natural, raw, competitive lifters in the United States. That comes out to about 10 lifters per class. So what is the alternative? Maybe 0.1%? Now that sound elite.  But then we'd only have 1 elite guy for each class walking around. And we already have a classification for that. Its called "national champion."

Using the top 1% is an objective standard and I think its pretty good considering powerlifting is a fringe sport.  The top 1% will always be the top 1%. Over time, assuming the sport becomes more popular, competition will increase and a new 1% standard will supplant the old.  So, if you feel the numbers are too low, blame the gross amount of lifters, not the methodology. There aren't enough competitive powerlifters. Further, there certainly aren't enough raw, drug free competitors. To the people bitching:

Have you competed in a totally raw event?
Are you natural?

If you answer no to both of those, then you aren't helping the problem. Compete raw and drug free, obtain the 1%, and be a part of the solution to make the standard mean something. The standards won't change, and should not change until stronger people compete raw. If there were a million competitive, raw/drug free lifters in the United States then the 1% standard would be inappropriate. But we don't have that problem. "


Standards as of of January 1, 2012.


Men’s Squat

Wt. Class

114
123
132
148
165
181
198
220
242
275
275+
ELITE

292
320
348
389
452
495
535
565
590
620
662
MASTER

269
294
320
358
416
455
492
520
543
570
609
CLASS I

239
262
285
319
371
406
439
463
484
508
543
CLASS II

210
230
251
280
325
356
385
407
425
446
477
CLASS III

184
202
219
245
285
312
337
356
372
391
417
CLASS IV

161
176
191
214
249
272
294
311
325
341
364

Men’s Bench Press

Wt. Class

114
123
132
148
165
181
198
220
242
275
275+
ELITE

235
258
275
314
358
387
415
440
462
483
500
MASTER

214
235
253
289
329
356
382
405
425
444
462
CLASS I

193
212
226
257
294
317
340
361
379
396
412
CLASS II

169
186
198
226
258
279
299
317
333
348
363
CLASS III

148
163
173
198
226
244
261
277
291
304
315
CLASS IV

129
142
151
173
197
213
228
242
254
266
275

Men’s Deadlift

Wt. Class

114
123
132
148
165
181
198
220
242
275
275+
ELITE

346
374
402
468
537
597
625
642
660
689
700
MASTER

318
344
370
431
494
549
575
591
607
634
644
CLASS I

284
307
330
384
440
490
513
526
541
565
574
CLASS II

249
269
289
337
387
430
450
462
475
496
504
CLASS III

218
236
253
295
338
376
394
404
416
434
441
CLASS IV

190
206
221
257
295
328
344
353
363
379
385
  
Men’s Strict Curl

Wt. Class

114
123
132
148
165
181
198
220
242
275
275+
ELITE

85
100
115
130
142
151
160
168
175
175
175
MASTER

77
91
105
118
130
138
148
156
163
163
163
CLASS I

70
82
94
107
117
124
132
139
144
144
144
CLASS II

61
72
83
94
103
109
116
122
127
127
127
CLASS III

54
63
72
82
90
95
102
107
111
111
111
CLASS IV

46
54
62
70
78
83
88
92
97
97
97

Men’s Powerlifting Total

Wt. Class

114
123
132
148
165
181
198
220
242
275
275+
ELITE

805
881
947
1124
1261
1396
1495
1587
1630
1710
1740
MASTER

741
811
871
1034
1160
1279
1375
1460
1500
1573
1601
CLASS I

660
722
777
922
1034
1148
1226
1301
1337
1402
1427
CLASS II

580
634
682
809
908
1012
1076
1143
1174
1231
1253
CLASS III

507
555
597
708
794
879
942
1000
1027
1077
1096
CLASS IV

443
485
521
618
694
768
822
873
897
941
957

3 comments:

  1. There is a similar discussion on TN in the Powerlifting forum. I dunno, once I get up in the 180's (which is the plan.. I know from history that 185 feels good), hitting an elite total will still be pretty damn hard. For me, it would probably actually be impossible to do at 181 due to my size, but it'll be years before I am ever up to 200+lbs (realistically).

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  2. I think elite should be attainable by someone other than juiced genetic freaks. These numbers are pretty damn hard for the normal person, I agree. They should be that way, but my point is the current classifications are realistic based on the population.

    It seems impossible (especially some of the individual lifts), but then again think of where you will be 5 years from now. Now think about 10-15 years. That is a long ass time to get stronger (and add size).

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